FRAN: ... Now I guess you want to hear our comments —at least my comments— on the visiting aspect. And there's no doubt in my mind, Pop, that it's a wonderful thing if we could all pay frequent visits. I mean it's just good to see each other and to keep in contact. We also realize your packing problem and everything, but I know that I don't have to explain to you because you very thoughtfully and thoroughly thought yourselves that it is difficult because of time and money elements. Those are the two main factors, of course.

I don't like to speak for anyone because everyone has his own little package, as you say, they all have their own little problems.

Then again, as I said, you can still come here, whether we're working, whether what, always you can pick yourselves up and come here. The room, the making the room isn't so gerferlach, so we're put out for a little bit, it really isn't that terrible. It may seem a lot of trouble but it really isn't. So if you make a frequent trip here and stay a few days, it really isn't so terrible, we all like it just as much. In fact surprisingly enough, it is easier for you to come here to us than for us to go to you, because don't forget we also have all the packing and getting out. But we'll try to do the best we can. And don't forget there are always future simchas and future occasions that we can look forward to. So you have my comment on that...